News : 09/17/2021 ~ Win for Outpost Gallifrey

Brax

Member
That one was actually aimed at me, and specifically a Discord server where I was highly active, but it was still nowhere near 50 people when I was there, and they were (almost) all very friendly towards me (until they decided to just turn on me viciously for literally no good reason!).
How very strange! What’s not to love about infinite angry reactions, calling people stupid, and aggressive insistence in wild, illogical, and unsupported claims?

I guess you’ll never know…
 

Brax

Member
Wow, seriously, did this work so well?

I didn't know it would work so well and I guess in a 'fuck me' sort of way I should not be surprised.

I mean shit, I fucking won. I wasn't trying for myself, it was for others, and I won. I have been beating this box for so many years I had no idea how the 2021 win was. It was HUGE!

In a nutshell:

1) I was the original founder of Outpost Gallifrey. In ILC (In Living Colour) BBS That's been established. I have my website back that was stolen.

2) Outpost Gallifrey is back!

Someone might be going to jail and that saddens me, as I don't want ill will like that on others. But Steve Hill, aka Author Stephen Warren Hill decided for decades to bypass the IRS and his day is coming. That sucks. he did it to himself. You might have seen that on your credit card statement as 'Gold Usher". That's when you got scammed by Steve Hill.





More later if anyone wants.

Kamelion
San Francisco, California
I just want to be the first to congratulate you on the imaginary victory you won in your invented conflict that happened in full view of no one using evidence that exists only in your mind. Happy secret invisible fake triumph to you!
 

Brax

Member
Here's something I will say that may answer peoples questions of late.

1) Do I deserve any ability to moderate Outpost Gallifrey and The Time Scales?

Yes I do, as I preserved them. Plain and simple and I am not mean.

A) No, I will not. While I am the founder of Outpost Gallifrey (US BBS 713-455-5050 - 1988-1989)

If anyone thinks I am not performing in the best interest of fandom, please let me know, as I am trying the best I can.

Kamelion
San Francisco, California
Oh, and my girlfriend (who’s a supermodel but lives in Canada so that’s why you’ve never seen her but she’s totally real) also says congrats. So does Mr. Snuffleupagus and the Chupacabra.
 

DrWhoFanJ

Member
How very strange! What’s not to love about infinite angry reactions, calling people stupid, and aggressive insistence in wild, illogical, and unsupported claims?

I guess you’ll never know…
How very strange! I wasn’t aware you were ever part of that server when I was there, so how do you know any part of what happened?
Even stranger is the fact that you have only reported the responses of those already biased against me, rather than the actual facts of the matter, which are that every single one of those reactions was prompted.
The 😡s were because people kept saying things that made me angry (perfectly logical); the calling people stupid, because they kept saying stupid things; and the non-aggressive insistence was in the actual facts of each situation rather than the “wild, illogical, [sic] and unsupported claims” the other side kept proposing!
 

Brax

Member
How very strange! I wasn’t aware you were ever part of that server when I was there, so how do you know any part of what happened?
Even stranger is the fact that you have only reported the responses of those already biased against me, rather than the actual facts of the matter, which are that every single one of those reactions was prompted.
The 😡s were because people kept saying things that made me angry (perfectly logical); the calling people stupid, because they kept saying stupid things; and the non-aggressive insistence was in the actual facts of each situation rather than the “wild, illogical, [sic] and unsupported claims” the other side kept proposing!
So….you did do all of those things. I see.
Are you sure you’re not Rudy Giuliani? You seem to share the same habit of mindlessly blurting out confessions.
 
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DrWhoFanJ

Member
So….you did do all of those things. I see.
Are you sure you’re not Rudy Giuliani? You seem to share the same habit of mindlessly blurting out confessions.
Or maybe it’s because I’m not “confessing”; I’m providing the missing context that reveals why those were not bad things. One does not confess to positive actions, does one? 🤔

Am I sure I’m not…an unknown person of whom I have never heard? I mean, I’m as sure as I can be without knowing who they even are! 🤷‍♂️🤔
 

Brax

Member
Or maybe it’s because I’m not “confessing”; I’m providing the missing context that reveals why those were not bad things. One does not confess to positive actions, does one? 🤔

Am I sure I’m not…an unknown person of whom I have never heard? I mean, I’m as sure as I can be without knowing who they even are! 🤷‍♂️🤔
Or maybe because you are confessing, that means by definition that you have done bad things. Why are definitions and logic so hard for you? You confess to the harassment, ipso facto you are now a confessed criminal.
 

DrWhoFanJ

Member
Or maybe because you are confessing, that means by definition that you have done bad things. Why are definitions and logic so hard for you? You confess to the harassment, ipso facto you are now a confessed criminal.
Nope, I’m not confessing to anything; as I’ve already explained less than 20 minutes ago, I was providing the context that had previously been omitted from the explanations of my actions that, once restored, explain why my actions were entirely justified by the previous provocations that had triggered them.

Definitions and logic are precisely how I operate, actually, and that is why I know that you are still failing to correctly process the provided information.
 

Brax

Member
Nope, I’m not confessing to anything; as I’ve already explained less than 20 minutes ago, I was providing the context that had previously been omitted from the explanations of my actions that, once restored, explain why my actions were entirely justified by the previous provocations that had triggered them.

Definitions and logic are precisely how I operate, actually, and that is why I know that you are still failing to correctly process the provided information.
You are now on ignore because I will not consort with a confessed criminal. I’m sure you’ll keep talking and angry-ing, but your only likely audience is your lord and master, the paedophile Kamelion. So dance for your master, monkey, dance!
 

DrWhoFanJ

Member
You are now on ignore because I will not consort with a confessed criminal. I’m sure you’ll keep talking and angry-ing, but your only likely audience is your lord and master, the paedophile Kamelion. So dance for your master, monkey, dance!
Well, I am not a criminal, confessed or otherwise.

Theoretically speaking, even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that what I did was bad (which it isn’t), none of it is illegal (y’know, the most inherent part of being a criminal), so there would be no legal grounds for my incarceration.

You are clearly yet another idiot. Goodbye.

(Oh, and still no-one has ever provided any evidence to even suggest Kamelion’s alleged pædophilia, so don’t go using that old chestnut again, troll!)
 
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Kamelion

Active member
Any way anyone looks at it there is a very plain and clear win.

If Doctor Who fans are not harassed and in particular not harassed by BBC and Big Finish authors - that's a real plus.

Anyone in Doctor Who fandom history should be very extremely familiar with the harassment of fans on the 'Official" Big Finish Forum and even one of the old 'BBC" forums. Yet unfortunately it was severe on the original web based Doctor Who forum Outpost Gallifrey.

People just don't want to be harassed anymore. That's so 2000's. It is worth documenting the moves forward.

Kamelion
San Francisco, California
 

Kamelion

Active member
Hi folks,

This message chain has revealed something to me that I am quite pleased about. Apparently I do not read forums daily, or even weekly or even monthly. That is due in part to the fact that I have never really considered forums to be a source of value for real usable information, as it's just all to commonly an unverifiable bunch of people spewing their own opinions based on no facts or real experience (FACEBOOK) But this one I do try to hold dear to heart as it's personal and goes back for decades, in fact to the early 1980's when I created Outpost Gallifrey as part of my commodore 64 bbs originally titled 'Closet 64', and then later 'In Living Colour' that did hold the title of the #1 c64 bbs on Earth for three years in a row.

Personally discovering the extreme abuse of Doctor Who fans over the years did prompt me to do something, give them a haven and climb up on a rooftop and scream about it.

Let's get some legal shit out of the way real plain and clear;

1) Big Finish & BBC

I am volunteering and clearly stating that I was never abused or by Big Finish or BBC staff directly.

I have however been bullied by both BBC and Big Finish authors, writers and other positions.

I have seen a memo issued which prohibits contractors such as authors from participating in online forums that abuse and bully Doctor Who fans. It would make complete sense that BBC wants to protect their brand.

Outpost Gallifrey does have a cache of tens of thousands of pages of documents that show and clearly demonstrate this abuse of fans spanning, sadly, a generation. I get choked up when I think about that. An entire generation of children, their parents all subjected to bullying and harassment. It comes down to two places on the Internet. Gallifreybase.com run by author Steven Warren Hill to promote his own conventions using a fake IRS tax exemption he calls 'Gold Usher", and Tony Jones which to this day runs a fake Big Finish forum he calls Divergent Universe where BBC and Big Finish staff actively and openly discriminate. I was harassed there, I was in a conversation with John Dorney. I informed John Dorney that I had been censored and harassed and he instead elected to continue to use the forum knowing with full evidence that he was on a forum of abuse and harassment of Doctor Who consumers.

Nothing is off the plate.

For you people that knew and loved the original Oupost Gallifrey, in the summer of 2021 we recovered an archive that contains every single message since post by Shaun Lyon on May 12th, 1995, six years later when he would steal the name "Outpost Gallifrey' as he posted the message under the very forum itself, 'Outpost Gallifrey'. which was then on an Apple ][e with a 1200 baud modem. It clearly shows where the name was stolen from me. It took decades to get the name back from this thief.

If you are a victim of harassment if the Doctor Who world, do speak up. You are not alone. Post it here or we even have private forums for discussion of such.

Outpost Gallifrey in it's return, has already provided relief for fans that have been abused and we are the focal central point for such. We have absolute damning evidence of long term abuse of fans and have no reservations about releasing it in mass.

We want the problem fixed. No more BBC and/or Big Finish authors posting on Gallireybase.com or Divergent Universe. If they do continue, we will start to release documents in droves.

Outpost Gallifrey holds the largest Internet library of Doctor Who fan interaction in history. We actually have every single post ever made, which took about half a decade to recover. We have 100% of all content of Outpost Gallifrey and it absolutely shows a pattern and history of the harassment of fans.

Outpost Gallifrey is working on an idea for an online museum, that would show all fan comments since 1981 and beyond.

Outpost Gallifrey has retained 100% of all public fan comments on the Internet since 1981. What has been lost is all of the arbitrary and private information that was entrusted to just two people, Shaun Lyon and author Steve Hill. Those two gentlemen tried and most fortunately failed to commercialize Doctor Who without a license in the US. Author Steven Warren Hill continues with his fraud while registered with the US IRS (Internal Revenue Service) as a fake non profit that he registered called 'GOLD USHER'. That fucker is likely looking at prison time.

Everyone have a great week, and may you find a story you will love!

Kamelion
San Francisco
 
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Dr X

New member
While this is an exciting conversation to join, I can confirm that there are currently 2,787,439 documents that exist from 1981 until present in relation to Outpost Gallifrey. Some of the compiled information includes private messages including those of Shaun Lyon. This is not a hacked file so to speak, it comes from promotional materials where Shaun Lyon sold all of the personal information of Doctor Who fans to a 'Gold Usher". This was an install file offered to other potential buyers. At the time it was about $25,000.00.

The data formats are not compatible with current modern, main stream data files as the original commodore 64 bbs script was written in Basic with Hex modifications (by Kamelion signed by name in 1981). After that it was converted to apple which was a disaster and then a few months later back to CBM Basic. This would be converted to HTML and then beyond.

I have no comments on history of interactions, other than the fact that I can confirm that the history is as complete as possible. It required over four years of research and retrieval to piece back together "OUTPOST GALLIFREY", from 1981 to present.

Dr. William T. Rooney III
Modesto, California
 

Kamelion

Active member
Hi Bill, long time no talk. I still remember that SCCA RX7 we built. I actually didn't know you were still alive.

The compressed file I have is probably the same from when Shaun Lyon sold it to Steve Hill. I believe Steve Hill paid $25,000 when my bid was $29k in cash back then. There seemed to be some saved benefits of people that run for profit conventions with each other, kind of a brotherhood. In fact not even 'kind of', a real brotherhood in trying to same ill gotten gains of for profits guys vs. actual fandom.

Let's compare files please. Great and very surprising to see you again.
 

Dr X

New member
I know what the asking prices were for the data and what is extremely unfortunate is how many times it has been sold.

I uploaded it to you in messages. Does that help?

Dr. William T. Rooney III
Modesto, California
 

Kamelion

Active member
I know what the asking prices were for the data and what is extremely unfortunate is how many times it has been sold.

I uploaded it to you in messages. Does that help?

Dr. William T. Rooney III
Modesto, California
Yes I see it and thank you. It's the same file I have had for a few years. Do you have the 'Four Missing Years?" Those were the ones right before OG went down under Shaun and it was claimed that all of them were wiped by him, some night when he got drunk or something stupid.

There was a backup file made before he transferred it to Steve Hill. Sold it, whatever. The website was visable for about a week that showed all of the recent history, and then Steve Hill installed new software and just decided that the last four years didn't matter or something. Those four years are missing.

It is likely that Steve Hill just deleted all of them because he was more interesting in money than preserving history. I hope that is not the case. That group of messages held hundreds of my first Doctor Who reviews and can not be replaced.

Weird to see you Bill. Thank you, thank you.

-K-
 

Dr X

New member
It is not all that surprising to me to find you here. It would make sense.

The file that you are referencing was one that Shaun Lyon shared with potential buyers and he only provided it direct. I checked with one of my friends over at Gallifreybase.com and she looked at the archive files which are not online. The file was there so she grabbed it. That right there does contain the 4 missing years you speak of. We will get that over to you now. Keep up the great work and let me know if you need any more help.

Dr. William T. Rooney III
Modesto, California
 

Kamelion

Active member
Bill, you have to be kidding me man. If I had known it was only so simple to just ask if anyone has access to that data, I would have asked years ago. I mean it would make sense that it was saved, somewhere, but then trying to get that from people that seem to care more for profit than preservation of history, sure.

I have opened the file and this is indeed it. This was the missing piece of Outpost Gallifrey from when it was sold by someone that didn't even own or create it to someone else that didn't even own or create it. That's terrible. Glad to have it back and thank you. I see 142,425 messages in this file. I have found my own old reviews. Does this contain private messages?

-K-
 
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